Fortune Feimster: A Queer Debutante Walks Into a Hooters . . .
December 15, 2022
Glennon Doyle:
Hi, everybody. You are in for a treat today because we have Fortune Feimster here, and this team over here is really excited.
Fortune Feimster:
Oh my gosh, this is a pretty great group right here.
Abby Wambach:
I’m telling you.
Fortune Feimster:
Come on. And we’re all very good looking. It’s wild.
Amanda Doyle:
Yes, we are.
Glennon Doyle:
That’s the thing.
Fortune Feimster:
Luckily.
Amanda Doyle:
I’m so glad. I’ve been waiting, what, 150 episodes for someone to notice that quickly? Fortune, you’re the smartest one we’ve had so far.
Fortune Feimster:
This podcast is called Eye Candy today.
Glennon Doyle:
Yes.
Amanda Doyle:
Eye Candy Hard Things.
Glennon Doyle:
Eye Candy Hard Things. I knew it was coming, Sister.
Glennon Doyle:
Fortune Feimster is a standup comedian, writer, and actor. Her first Netflix special, Sweet and Salty, so freaking good, was nominated for a Critics Choice Award. And her new comedy special Good Fortune, so freaking good-
Abby Wambach:
Yes.
Glennon Doyle:
… is streaming now on Netflix. Fortune was a writer and panelist on the hit show, Chelsea Lately. This show loves us some Chelsea. And starred in the Mindy Project. She has also appeared in Two Broke Girls, The L Word: Generation Q, of course.
Fortune Feimster:
For a minute.
Glennon Doyle:
Fortune, welcome.
Fortune Feimster:
Thank you. This is so cool to be on here. I appreciate it.
Glennon Doyle:
Oh my, we appreciate you.
So the first question that I’m sure everyone asks you as soon as they see you is-
Abby Wambach:
Yes.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
… clearly you were a debutante.
Abby Wambach:
Yes.
Glennon Doyle:
Right?
Fortune Feimster:
Clearly. I mean, I think that my manners and ladylike behavior comes across pretty quickly.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah. I joked in the Sweet and Salty special about it because I never thought that would be something I would reveal to anyone. I thought it would be something I hid deep down in my treasure chest of memories.
Fortune Feimster:
But my friend was like, “You have to tell people about that.” It’s crazy because it’s not anything I wanted to do or be a part of. But my mom was one and very determined for me to be one. Literally, was working at a recreation apartment in town, lining softball fields and then leaving and going to these parties where you’d eat little sandwiches.
Glennon Doyle:
This culture is so amazing. You need to tell us. My sister has tried to explain it. She went to college in the South and so she has friends who did all of this extravaganza. It’s amazing. What happens?
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah, it’s very ladylike. You have to wear a dress or a skirt, which I had none of. And my mom, I think, made me go to Lane Bryant or something and buy lots of stuff with shoulder pads.
Fortune Feimster:
Luckily a friend of mine did it with me and so we would just have fun. But it was a lot of shaking hands and then thanking people for having us to their home. And, “Thank you for the ice tea.” It was, yeah, a lot of manners, which-
Glennon Doyle:
What’s the point of it?
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
You’re being introduced to society as an available wife?
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah. I guess? Honestly, I haven’t read the history of it because I’m too scared to. I don’t want to know.
Glennon Doyle:
Sister, tell us!
Amanda Doyle:
Fortune, this your-
Fortune Feimster:
Oh, no.
Amanda Doyle:
… lineage that came from this. So the whole thing started in England. It was this idea of when aristocracy, children of aristocracy and of very wealthy means were presented their daughters to the court. Literally, this is where we get Homecoming Court, right?
Fortune Feimster:
Oh no.
Amanda Doyle:
Presented to the kings and queens and court of, “This daughter is now of breeding age and available for marriage.”
Fortune Feimster:
Oh!
Amanda Doyle:
And the idea was… So debutante is debut, right? You’re first coming out.
Fortune Feimster:
I see.
Amanda Doyle:
So this is, yes, you’re coming out to the world, you’re available.
Glennon Doyle:
Fortune, did you know it was called a coming out party?
Abby Wambach:
Oh, how ironic.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah. I said I came out twice. The first one was just the wrong, coming out.
Abby Wambach:
The opposite, in fact.
Fortune Feimster:
I knew I was being presented to society, but I honestly didn’t know what that meant.
Glennon Doyle:
Right, right.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah. At the ripe age of 18, was not ready to A, get married or B, get married to a man.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
So I’m glad that it was only in practice, like, “Oh, we’re going to do this for the fun party.”
Glennon Doyle:
Right.
Fortune Feimster:
But I wasn’t promised to anyone.
Glennon Doyle:
And your mom was into it. Your mom-
Fortune Feimster:
My mom was so into it.
Glennon Doyle:
Right.
Fortune Feimster:
Because my family had come from money. My grandfather was this very prominent contractor. He built all these things all over North Carolina, schools, churches, houses. But he died unexpectedly. My grandmother made some bad business decisions. There was a lot of things.
Fortune Feimster:
So by time I came up, we had no money. So there was this big juxtaposition of my mom came from this world and I am not in that world. I would say that I would come home and the couch would be gone. And I was like, “Where’s the couch?” And she was like, “I had to pay for that debutante party.”
Abby Wambach:
Oh my gosh, are you kidding me?
Fortune Feimster:
It was-
Glennon Doyle:
Is that not the epitome of, “Here’s your fancy dress, so go out there and look rich and try to get rich. But don’t try to sit on a couch because we have nothing.”
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah. I mean, our house was empty and I was going to debutante parties because you have to pay for all this stuff. And I was like, “Mom, we don’t have any money. We can’t do this.” You have to buy a big, white wedding gown for this ball. That’s an actual wedding gown I’m wearing. It’s nuts. And I say that my brother walks me down the aisle in a tuxedo. It looks like we’re getting married. There’s so much wrong with it.
Glennon Doyle:
Wow.
Fortune Feimster:
And so against my personality and anything that I want to be a part of.
Glennon Doyle:
It’s amazing.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
I mean, the whole Southern culture is so fascinating.
Glennon Doyle:
Can you tell us about your grandmother about the Bridge games?
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
Because this feels like part of the ritual that is so ingrained in Southern culture, which is so beautiful and brutal. Tell us about the Bridge games that you used to have to-
Fortune Feimster:
Well my grandmother was such a lady, very, like I said, prominent lady back in the day. But when I was young, she used to have Bridge games over to her house and it was this whole to-do and all these proper ladies had their bridge tables.
Fortune Feimster:
And they would march us in to… I would say the Pledge of Allegiance and we had to learn how to properly shake a hand, look someone in the eye and make it a strong handshake. Then we had to go around and ask everyone how they… I mean, I was like six or seven years old. “Yes, ma’am. No, ma’am.” I had that thick Southern accent and just… Yeah. “Do you need anything else to drink?”
Amanda Doyle:
Can we talk about why the hell the Pledge of Allegiance was required before a Bridge game?
Glennon Doyle:
Bridge game.
Fortune Feimster:
I honestly don’t know. As she got older, she stopped doing that thing and she loosened up a bit. She wasn’t as rigid. She was very into manners and how you’re supposed to act. My brothers and I have great manners, we’re always… Except for eating, I’m a little a bit of a beast that did not stick with me. My wife’s always like, “Why are you licking your fingers? You were a debutante. You should know this.”
Glennon Doyle:
This is my favorite part of the whole thing because we have this Southern emphasis on ritual and respect and the debutante lady.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
So obviously, this family that has these southern values would spend your birthday… where?
Fortune Feimster:
That’s the thing.
Glennon Doyle:
Where would you spend your birthday, Fortune?
Fortune Feimster:
That’s the thing! We would go-
Glennon Doyle:
At a tearoom, Fortune? Would you spend it at a tearoom?
Fortune Feimster:
We would not go to a tearoom. We actually went to Hooters. It was my 21st birthday and I was in the closet. Because being from the South, I just didn’t have examples of gay people. I didn’t know any gay people. I went to a very small, ironically, women’s college where you think it would just be chock full of lesbians. Not the case, you guys.
Amanda Doyle:
Damn it.
Glennon Doyle:
Damn it.
Amanda Doyle:
Fortune can’t catch a break.
Fortune Feimster:
I picked the one women’s college with no lesbians. So I was a late bloomer. And I remember my family wanted to take me to Hooters because it was a place that we’ve gone to many times before.
Fortune Feimster:
But this was back when, if it was your birthday at Hooters, six Hooters waitresses would grab you and parade you around the restaurant. And this is when Hooters was at the top of its game.
Glennon Doyle:
Right, right.
Fortune Feimster:
It was very popular.
Glennon Doyle:
Yes.
Fortune Feimster:
Now everyone’s like, “Ah, boobs we’ve seen ’em.”
Glennon Doyle:
Right.
Fortune Feimster:
But back then, everyone was like, “Boobs!” So I’m telling everybody, “Do not tell them it’s my birthday. I don’t want that attention.” Because the place was packed with these old school guys. And I’m like, “They don’t want to see me being paraded around by a bunch of Hooters waitresses.”
Fortune Feimster:
So my brother’s girlfriend told them and sure enough, they came and grabbed me and walked me around the Hooters. And I always said it felt like the gay Salem witch trials where I was about to get scarlet letter in the town hall. Because they grabbed a bar stool, this was a tradition back then, and they make you stand on this bar stool in the middle of the restaurant. All these guys were like, “What’s what’s happening here?” And the girls circle around you and you’re present is that they jump up and down and you get to look down from your perch and see boobies flopping. That’s your present.
Glennon Doyle:
Happy birthday, Fortune.
Fortune Feimster:
So I just could not believe it that that was my present. And my whole family was cheering and taking pictures.
Glennon Doyle:
But cheering and taking pictures of Fortune on the bar stool, looking at boobs, and no one knows that Fortune is gay still, including Fortune?
Fortune Feimster:
Well my brothers claimed that they had a pretty good idea. But my mom totally thought I was looking for a husband. My mom was out to lunch. She did not put two and two together.
Amanda Doyle:
Maybe that’s why she kept taking you to Hooters.
Fortune Feimster:
I-
Glennon Doyle:
She’s like, “One of these guys…”
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah. Even when I came out to her, she’s like, “Are you sure?”
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
I’m like, “I’m pretty sure.”
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
But your brothers when you came out said…
Fortune Feimster:
I came out to my brothers. I was like, “You guys, I’m gay.” And my brother said, “Yeah, duh.” And I was like, “Well thanks for telling me that.”
Abby Wambach:
Yeah, yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
And then I go, “Well, why did you think I was gay this whole time? What gave that away?” And he said, “Well, once when you were seven you got hit with a soccer ball and you yelled, ‘Ow! My dick!'” And I was like, “What?” It was wild.
Glennon Doyle:
But you lived in North Carolina. When did you move to LA?
Fortune Feimster:
I moved to LA after college. I graduated college when I was 22, moved to Spain for a year randomly to live and teach English. Then after that, so I moved to LA in 2003.
Glennon Doyle:
Okay. So you get to LA what was that like, moving from your small town to LA?
Fortune Feimster:
I mean, a total shock. I think if I had not gone to Spain for a year, I would’ve arrived to LA and left six months later. But I think because living in Spain was so hard and there was that language barrier that I was like, “Well, if I can do that, I think I can do anything.” Because when you talk about doing hard things, that was very difficult. And the whole time I was like, “Why am I here? I don’t know why I chose do this.”
Fortune Feimster:
But I think because I was from a small town, my town was 8,000 or 9,000 people, my school was tiny, and I always just felt like there was more. And I was like, “I’ve got to get out of my bubble. I’ve got to see what’s out there. I’ve got to learn about the world.”
Fortune Feimster:
I was like, “I’m going to go to Spain!” I had no money. I got eight jobs that summer and earned the money and went and it was awesome. It was hard but awesome. I learned so much and grew up so much so that when I got to LA I was like, “Well, at least I can understand what people are saying and that’s a start.”
Glennon Doyle:
Sort of, sort of.
Abby Wambach:
How many people do you think you were teaching English to?
Fortune Feimster:
I was just tutoring, so it was maybe only four.
Abby Wambach:
Okay.
Fortune Feimster:
Because I was going to language school and then tutoring on the side.
Fortune Feimster:
But I’ll tell you this, I am not meant to be a teacher. My wife was a teacher for 12 years. My mom was a teacher for 30 something years. My wife’s mom’s a teacher for 35 years.
Fortune Feimster:
I tutored these young lads and all they wanted to do was have fun. They wanted to laugh and play games. So I would come up with improv games. These boys came from a very prominent family and I don’t think they were allowed to have much fun.
Fortune Feimster:
No one told me that the six-year-old had homework every week and tests every week in English that I was supposed to be helping him with. No one told me this. So every week we’re just having fun, learning about animals and things in English.
Fortune Feimster:
So it was my last day, I’m about to leave Spain forever and the nanny tells me that the six-year-old has failed English. And I was like, “Hmm, I have to go.”
Glennon Doyle:
“I have to go.”
Abby Wambach:
That is exit stage left. But it makes me laugh thinking about these kids walking around Spain having the southern draw.
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah! Do they have a North Carolina accent?
Fortune Feimster:
I cannot believe in hindsight they hired me because this is a family that definitely wants their kids to speak British English, not this. So I don’t know what they were thinking because, oh those poor boys couldn’t-
Amanda Doyle:
They’re walking into job interviews now going, “Hey, y’all!”
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah, “Hey, y’all!” Yeah. So best year of their life, they had more fun than ever, but did not learn anything.
Glennon Doyle:
So you get to LA this was like pre-GPS, right?
Fortune Feimster:
Yes.
Glennon Doyle:
So you did some strange things to find your way around. And is it true that you found a bunch of L Word bootlegs on Craigslist?
Fortune Feimster:
Oh my gosh. You really did a deep dive.
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah, I did.
Fortune Feimster:
Wow. Yeah, so I was living in LA and that was pre-GPS. So that’s when you were given a Thomas Guide.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
It was a book of grids that you were just supposed to be like, “I need to go to The Grove… C-9.”
Abby Wambach:
Yes.
Glennon Doyle:
Yes.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
You’re like, “What?”
Fortune Feimster:
So yeah, I was finding my way out here and I was not out yet. I think, obviously, something was bubbling inside of me because I remember that was when they had the gay Pride weekend on the local access channel. I’m like, “What’s this?” But again, I didn’t know any gay people. I didn’t know many people at all in LA. So I was just curious about the world and what it meant to be gay. And I just wanted some information. And The L Word I think was maybe one season in and I didn’t have Showtime because I was poor, could not afford it.
Fortune Feimster:
So you could buy bootleg copies of it on Craigslist. I bought the entire first season of The L Word on Craigslist and it just showed up. It was just those blank DVDs. There was eight of them or something. I was like, “All right…”
Glennon Doyle:
Here we go.
Fortune Feimster:
And I put it in and just it blew my mind. I mean, not even the salacious part of it, which it had plenty. Just seeing women go get coffee together or be in a relationship or have these friendships. I had never seen that before in the terms of a gay world, a lesbian world. And that, I was like, “Oh my God, that’s the thing I’ve been missing,” that kind of thing. And I didn’t come out, still right away. But it definitely got that going for me where I was like, “Well, this looks pretty fun.”
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah, I remember that time.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah?
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah.
Amanda Doyle:
So-
Fortune Feimster:
You watched it back then too or later on?
Glennon Doyle:
No, because I’m-
Abby Wambach:
For sure did.
Glennon Doyle:
I’m a newbie.
Fortune Feimster:
I figured Abby did.
Abby Wambach:
She’s new.
Glennon Doyle:
I’m newbie. I missed that whole wave.
Abby Wambach:
I wanted to be Shane. And also I moved to LA shortly thereafter, around the same time as you.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Abby Wambach:
And I kept going to the places that I saw on the screen and I’m like, “Where the fucking lesbians?”
Glennon Doyle:
Oh, well, you know what Fortune did. Fortune,-
Fortune Feimster:
What’s up?
Glennon Doyle:
Tell Abby what you signed up for in order to find the gays.
Fortune Feimster:
Well, once I came out I was like, “I got to find gay people to show me the way.” So I started joining all these teams, like sports teams. I joined a soccer league. I was like, “There’s got to be lesbians in the soccer league.”
Abby Wambach:
There are!
Fortune Feimster:
And I joined a softball league that’s all pretty-
Abby Wambach:
There they are.
Fortune Feimster:
… pretty on the nose.
Abby Wambach:
There they are.
Amanda Doyle:
Yeah, ding, ding ding!
Fortune Feimster:
Because soccer, there’s lesbians and then there’s also straight girls and just want to have fun.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Amanda Doyle:
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
And then I joined an African drumming class in Venice. I was like, “I’m going to meet some lesbians here for sure.”
Glennon Doyle:
Wow.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah, I just started spreading my gay wings.
Glennon Doyle:
So innovative of you. But it wasn’t The L Word that even made you… Like so many of us, what did it take for you, Fortune, to finally-
Abby Wambach:
Yeah, what was the aha moment?
Fortune Feimster:
So the aha moment is very embarrassing. I would love to be able to tell you that some amazing lesbian walked up to me and just laid one on me and rocked my world. That did not happen. That took a very long time to happen.
Fortune Feimster:
What happened was, I was at my house, flipping through the TV channels. And I came upon a Lifetime movie called The Truth About Jane.
Abby Wambach:
Oh my God.
Fortune Feimster:
And it was this girl in high school who was in this coming out journey and she was trying to figure out who she was. And her mom, played by Stockard Channing, was very like, “Boo!” She did not agree or support this. But the girl had a gay teacher who was very supportive and very attractive. It wasn’t like that. It wasn’t inappropriate.
Glennon Doyle:
Right.
Fortune Feimster:
But I can say that as a-
Abby Wambach:
To you, it was.
Fortune Feimster:
Yes, exactly.
Fortune Feimster:
Then the girl eventually realizes she’s gay and comes out and is very proud and I think gives a speech or something at her school? Then her mom loves her and is proud of her.
Fortune Feimster:
And I was sitting there watching this 17-year-old go through this journey and be very brave. Here I was, I think I was 25 or something and I was like, “Oh my god.” And I said out loud for the first time in my life I was like, “I’m gay.” And it was all from watching this Lifetime movie.
Abby Wambach:
They’ll do it.
Fortune Feimster:
And I was like, “Are you kidding me? This is the thing? This is the catalyst that made me finally say it?” But it, that’s the truth. That’s the truth about Fortune.
Glennon Doyle:
Were you scared?
Fortune Feimster:
That’s the truth about Fortune.
Amanda Doyle:
“That’s the truth about fortune.”
Amanda Doyle:
Yay!
Glennon Doyle:
For sure, that’s the title of this episode.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
Were you scared? Were you ecstatic? How did the aftermath of that realization go for you?
Fortune Feimster:
I was a lot of things. I was scared about how my family would react. I think I ended up not telling them for six months. I wanted to figure out that world a little bit myself before I went and just pronounced this thing about myself.
Fortune Feimster:
But there also is this giant weight lifted off my shoulder. Because my whole life, I had felt like something was missing, something’s not right and I don’t know what it is. I could never pinpoint it. I could be constantly racking my brain, like, “What is this thing that’s missing?”
Fortune Feimster:
And I never had that thing with guys where… I wasn’t dating guys. We just had that thing where we’d immediately high five. We had a very bro vibe with each other. Growing up, I was getting rejected in a way that I didn’t even realize. I wasn’t the object of affection for guys in that way. So I just didn’t have that. So I just remember always feeling a little empty, like I’m missing that love or affection that all these other people have gotten to experience.
Fortune Feimster:
So I think I was just relieved like, “Oh my gosh, I finally know what to even look for now.” Before, I just felt like I was just aimlessly looking around. So it felt like I had a direction now, in a weird way. And I felt free. This is who I am and I get to now be that person and figure out who that person is. And it was a really lovely thing to feel.
Fortune Feimster:
And I also started comedy that year and I don’t think it’s any accident that both those things found each other in my life at the same time.
Glennon Doyle:
Why? Why do you think it took the one to get the other?
Fortune Feimster:
Because, based on how I am as a comedian, I tell my story. And I think it would’ve been really weird to get up there and pretend to be something I’m not.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
I think people would’ve seen through me right away. And that authenticity, which I value and try to share with people, would’ve been missing. And I think that’s a big piece of who I am as a comedian.
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
Can you imagine me up there like, “Well, my boyfriend…”?
Amanda Doyle:
“Timmy.”
Glennon Doyle:
“Damn it, Timmy!”
Amanda Doyle:
“Tim!”
Glennon Doyle:
“Tim!”
Amanda Doyle:
You just said I can’t imagine pretending to be something I’m not. But not to get too anthropological about the Southern lady thing, but you grew up in a world where sweet Ginger, your mama would take you to Hooters, but then swear to God when she was dating a conservative man that she had never been Hooters.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Amanda Doyle:
And then you’re out playing the role of a debutante but you have no couch at home. So there’s a lot about that life that is pretending to be something you’re not, right? So where does that ethos come from you where you’re like, “No, I need to be fully integrated in who I am.”
Fortune Feimster:
I’m sure that seeing my mom go through her journey of trying to be something she wasn’t to please a man, I think that definitely bothered me back in the day. That whole, “I have never been to Hooters,” you’re just like, “We have been there my entire life and now you’re trying to act like you’re a whole different person?” I hated that. I hated seeing that.
Fortune Feimster:
So I think there was that probably internal thing of that “I don’t want to live my life like that. I don’t want to be somebody I’m not to try to please somebody else.” And she eventually grew out of that, too. She is not like that either.
Fortune Feimster:
Because there is a point I think that you reach in your life, you’re like, “I don’t want to try to be something I’m not so that you’ll like me.” That doesn’t feel good. And I think I just got to that place where I was just like, “I just want to be me. I know it’s taken me a long time to figure out who that even is, but now I have a better idea of that and that’s all I want to be. I don’t want to be a debutante. I don’t want to be straight, I don’t want to be…” whatever it is. And that’s where I think the weight lifted off came from, because I didn’t have to pretend anymore to please my mom or whoever it was.
Abby Wambach:
It’s exhausting.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Abby Wambach:
It takes so much more effort to be something that you’re not than… And comedians, I think, have this beautiful way of being truth tellers and it would be pretty backwards if you got up there and you were like, “I’m straight and…”
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah, “I’m looking for a guy if anybody knows anyone.”
Amanda Doyle:
Did your coming, bringing your truth to your mom, did that precede her… Where was she in her journey to come into herself? Because I’m wondering, sometimes it’s like when you say you weren’t the object of affection of boys, it made pretending to be that impossible.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Amanda Doyle:
And your mom was walking that line where she effectively was pretending. Was your coming out a watershed in her just being like, “Fuck it. I’m just not pretending anymore”?
Fortune Feimster:
I’m trying to think where she was at in her life. She was no longer with that very conservative man, who I have a feeling if I had come out earlier, it might not have gone over well because she was in the thick of that relationship and was really enamored with this person and it had taken over her senses a little bit too much.
Fortune Feimster:
So I think I had to get to a certain place in my life and fortunately, it lined up better with where she was at in her life. So she might have been single at the time? For her, there was acceptance from the beginning, which was amazing. I know not everyone is so lucky.
Fortune Feimster:
And for her it was, “I’m worried that your life is going to be harder because of this and there’s nothing that you’ve done that you’re just being who you are.” But she knew based on just being a person of the world and how people act, there are going to people that literally hate me because of this piece of information now. And I think that was really hard for her and it made her sad. Like, “I don’t want you to have to deal with that.”
Fortune Feimster:
And I go, “Well, on the flip side, not being who you are is a personal pain that, to me, is much greater than any hate someone’s going to spew at me.”
Abby Wambach:
That’s right.
Fortune Feimster:
I would much rather be happy with myself and my life than be, like you said, accepted by everyone. So I think it just took her a minute to wrap her head around what my life would look like. And as a parent you’ve envisioned like, “Oh, my kid’s going to get married and have kids.” They have this traditional view, probably. And I think she just needed a minute to rework that vision.
Glennon Doyle:
And she did. Didn’t she become the president of PFLAG in her town?
Fortune Feimster:
She did, yeah, in Gaston County, which is a very conservative area in North Carolina. There was a PFLAG group but it was small and not doing much. And she went in there and eventually became the president and they were very busy and doing things for years.
Fortune Feimster:
She would go to gay pride parades and those parents would write posters of support and love for gay people and stand in front of the people with the hateful signs. And they would say, “I love my gay child,” just support.
Fortune Feimster:
And I would get emails and tweets constantly from people like, “I saw your mom at this event or this Pride parade and my parents didn’t accept me coming out and seeing your mom be that way and love you no matter what, it gives me hope.” And it is amazing. I think she did it for, gosh, 10 years and she had to finally take a break during the pandemic.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
I was like, “You’ve done your gay work.”
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
“Take a break. Take a break.”
Glennon Doyle:
God bless Ginger.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah. She really resonates with a lot of people because she’s a spunky, full of personality woman and just very active and supportive of the gay community.
Glennon Doyle:
Thank you, Ginger. Our mom does that too. Our mom’s all it all over the place.
Fortune Feimster:
That’s awesome.
Glennon Doyle:
She’s planning trans celebrations at her church.
Fortune Feimster:
Wow.
Glennon Doyle:
She actually changed churches she went from a… What was she, Sister? She was Catholic, then she’s Episcopalian, then she moved to Universalist.
Amanda Doyle:
Unitarian.
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah, Unitarian.
Fortune Feimster:
Oh, yeah.
Amanda Doyle:
It’s a slippery slope!
Glennon Doyle:
It’s a slippery slope!
Amanda Doyle:
Moving the needle!
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah. My mom talks about that a lot because she’s Methodist and there’s been a lot of internal stuff going on with the church.
Glennon Doyle:
Yes.
Fortune Feimster:
So she’s very vocal about that. There’s one side that wants to accept the gay clergy and all that stuff and another side that doesn’t. So I don’t know where they’re at with that right now, but she’s always real annoyed by it.
Glennon Doyle:
Thank you for being annoyed, Ginger. We appreciate you.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah, she’s trying to get those Methodists set straight, in a gay way.
Glennon Doyle:
Good luck, Ginger.
Amanda Doyle:
It’s so cool because it seems like a dramatic shift, but really it’s just the re-funneling of that energy. Because when it’s all the passion then the sacrifice she was willing to make, she’s getting rid of all the furniture in your house so you could be a debutant trying to make your life good, the way she sees it. And then it’s just a shift in being like, “Oh no, this is where she needs me. She needs me over here instead of over here.”
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Amanda Doyle:
And so it was just a re-funneling of that passion. That’s beautiful.
Glennon Doyle:
We talk a lot about the, “I’m so scared life’s going to be so hard for you.” I think there’s so many parents who, out of fear, try to change their kid because they’re so scared the world’s going to be… And so it’s a different shift to say, “Okay, no, I’m not going to change my kid, but I’m going to work to change the world for my kid,” which is what your mom chose.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah, yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
Right? It’s a beautiful… I think it’s a better choice.
Fortune Feimster:
Absolutely, I would agree.
Fortune Feimster:
And I’m in a weird place. I didn’t just come out and like I’m living my life back home. I’m a very out there gay person, you know what I mean? I’m doing comedy specials where I’m talking about coming out, I’m bringing my wife on stage, I’m sharing very personal things about my life. So it does open you up to get criticism, to get hate. But to get to be some representation for people that I didn’t get to have growing up, to me, makes it worth it.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
If you can help someone in their journey, I think that’s so great.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah. So you’re not having a bootleg The L Word to actually see other gay people.
Fortune Feimster:
That’s right.
Abby Wambach:
I mean, it’s so important. I just think anybody who’s put themselves on television or in a public way, putting themselves out there as themselves, as a gay person in the world, I know that I look back and I think about all of those moments in the late ’90s and the early 2000s that totally changed the trajectory of my life.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Abby Wambach:
And for you to be doing that now, I can imagine it’s not just a couple of kids that are getting changed. It’s thousands and thousands of people who are looking at you, not only standing up there talking about it, but being proud of it, right?
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah. I mean, that was a thing that blew me away during the pandemic because my Sweet and Salty special came out and then the world shut down a month later. And I found that all these people were starting to watch it with their parents and maybe they wouldn’t have spent that same time with them, otherwise.
Fortune Feimster:
I was getting so many emails from young people saying they were scared to come out so they had their parents watch my special and they would watch their parents watch the special and see if they laughed and if there was joy or some positivity in their face. And if there was, they came out to them after watching it. And I couldn’t believe it.
Fortune Feimster:
Then, on the flip side of that, I had so many parents reach out to me and say, “I had this feeling that my kid might be gay and so we put on your special to show them that they could be safe to come out.” And I was like, “Oh my God.” You put this stuff out, you don’t think about these things that can come up of that, in that way. That just blew me away that that could have that impact and I’m really grateful that it did.
Amanda Doyle:
I feel like that more than makes up for those four kids in Spain that you screwed up.
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
Thank you.
Glennon Doyle:
Like more.
Fortune Feimster:
I’m just looking for validation.
Amanda Doyle:
You’re netting out. Yeah, you’re netting out really well.
Amanda Doyle:
Let’s switch to the opposite of parents who are afraid and shouldn’t be. Can we switch to being children of the ’80s and dealing with parents who should have been afraid but were not for us?
Glennon Doyle:
Jesus.
Fortune Feimster:
Yes. Yeah. I’d love in every comedy bit to do some throwback.
Abby Wambach:
It’s the best.
Fortune Feimster:
In my Sweet and Salty, I talked about being a terrible swimmer.
Glennon Doyle:
Yes.
Amanda Doyle:
Oh my God, that part.
Fortune Feimster:
And running across the pool. Which was very true, I still do that.
Glennon Doyle:
After being tweaking from the six pounds of Fun Dip you had been eating before?
Fortune Feimster:
The Fun Dip, aka kids cocaine.
Glennon Doyle:
Yes.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
So I thought, “What would be another fun throwback?” And I was thinking about how my wife’s a kindergarten teacher for 12 years and she’s so good and hands-on and very careful with the kids.
Glennon Doyle:
And I’m thinking, “It wasn’t like that for me.” And I’ve legitimately found a picture of me in kindergarten class and we were outside hammering, hammering nails.
Abby Wambach:
What?
Fortune Feimster:
I’m beside my teacher, so there was supervision. But I’m like, “Why at five years old were we hammering nails?” That just seems like too soon.
Abby Wambach:
Yes.
Glennon Doyle:
Yes.
Fortune Feimster:
Then it got me thinking about the recess out there was just crazy. Because they did used to have these large tires, these random, big tires that they would push up this hill in the back of elementary school and we would run up there and get into the middle of these tires. And our teachers would push us down these… I’m not talking a little, tiny hill, I’m talking about a ski slope size hill. And we would just be going, “Ahh!” and crashing into a wall. It was so dangerous. I got a black eye at one point when I was in kindergarten just because we were just left to our own devices. And nobody cared.
Glennon Doyle:
No.
Abby Wambach:
Nobody cared. I mean, nowadays the school, the teachers would get sued and-
Glennon Doyle:
It would never happen.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
Then the metal. The metal, all the metal and the burning hot and the things that would swing you around.
Fortune Feimster:
All the slides are made of aluminum, just melting in the sun.
Glennon Doyle:
Yes!
Fortune Feimster:
And the merry-go-rounds.
Glennon Doyle:
Oh god.
Fortune Feimster:
Truly, someone got stuck underneath it every day. I mean, now you get an ice pack if you have a headache.
Glennon Doyle:
That’s right.
Fortune Feimster:
I’m like, “This kid’s kneecap has been slit open.”
Abby Wambach:
It’s dislocated. Yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
Nothing. And I don’t even know if our teachers went outside? I think they just stayed in the room. They were like-
Glennon Doyle:
The smoking lounge.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah!
Glennon Doyle:
In the smoking lounge, yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
So I really love doing that throwback because anyone that grew up around that time, everybody’s like, “Oh yeah. Oh yeah, that’s how it was.”
Abby Wambach:
Yes, I know. We watched the special with one of our kids the other night and I look over at her whenever you go to a throwback ’80s story and she’s just like…
Glennon Doyle:
She’s like, “What?”
Fortune Feimster:
Completely glazes over, yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah.
Abby Wambach:
She has no idea and we’re rolling, we’re just dying.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah, yeah. It’s funny to see people, when I talk about the little part about the calculator and writing BOOBS.
Abby Wambach:
It’s the Best.
Amanda Doyle:
Oh, God. Or HELLO?
Abby Wambach:
HELLO was a good one, too.
Glennon Doyle:
Wait, was it? I thought it was 60065. Is it 8?
Abby Wambach:
It’s uppercase or lowercase.
Glennon Doyle:
Oh.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah, it depends on what your boobs are.
Amanda Doyle:
I mean, Fortune was an uppercase BOOB kind of a gal.
Fortune Feimster:
I was an all caps baby.
Glennon Doyle:
When I watched the special, I was like, “I think she got it wrong. I think she got it wrong.”
Abby Wambach:
Oh, it’s just because you had small boobs at that time.
Glennon Doyle:
I was small boobs. I’m more small-
Amanda Doyle:
Small boobs!
Glennon Doyle:
Oh no, I never knew.
Amanda Doyle:
We’re a lowercase boob family.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Amanda Doyle:
The 6 does work. That is lowercase boob.
Abby Wambach:
That’s good.
Amanda Doyle:
We live in this little neighborhood and this woman… I had just watched her special, then I was outside, my son was playing in the front yard.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Amanda Doyle:
He’s 10. And this woman who’s walking across the street from our house and her face is blanched, freaking out. And she’s screaming into my yard and she’s going, “Is that your kid?” My kid’s friend had just walked over to our house, lives five houses down, walking over. And she goes, “I just saw a kid walking down the street… alone!” And I was like, “Uh…”
Fortune Feimster:
Wow.
Amanda Doyle:
I’ve been watching a special one. This woman is about to call 911 because she’s seeing a kid just walking about. And I was like-
Fortune Feimster:
She’s going to report you.
Amanda Doyle:
Yeah, she’s going to report us.
And when I was that age, I was babysitting actual, baby children.
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah.
Amanda Doyle:
We used to babysit baby children and they’d be like, “Are you old enough to call 911 but are you young enough to not have your boyfriend come over and make out after putting the kids to sleep?” That was the criteria.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah. I think I started babysitting at 10.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Amanda Doyle:
Yes, yes!
Fortune Feimster:
I was calling my grandmother saying how scared I was and can she come over and protect all of us.
Abby Wambach:
“Can you come over and babysit me?”
Amanda Doyle:
You’re like, “I’m not sure this 75 cents an hour is worth the stress.”
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah. Because I remember we would leave the house at 10:00 AM on our bikes and be gone till 6:00 PM.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Amanda Doyle:
Right.
Fortune Feimster:
And our parents had no idea where we were. And they would walk outside, it was getting dark and they would yell. My mom would just yell out into the ethers for us to come home. And somehow that sound traveled like a mile.
Abby Wambach:
I know, yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
And I was like, “It’s time to go home.”
Abby Wambach:
Yep. It’s dinner, it’s food. My mom actually locked us outside. She would lock the-
Fortune Feimster:
Oh, really?
Abby Wambach:
Yeah, she’d locked the doors.
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah.
Abby Wambach:
So we’d have to pee in the bushes and drink water from the hose tap on the side of the house.
Fortune Feimster:
Oh my gosh.
Glennon Doyle:
That’s heroic. That’s a heroic experience.
Fortune Feimster:
It’s so different.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
So you-
Fortune Feimster:
It was different times.
Glennon Doyle:
You mentioned Jax and that she was a teacher.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
Can you talk to us… Because you guys are so sweet and cute and adorable.
Fortune Feimster:
Aw, thanks.
Abby Wambach:
And Biggie.
Glennon Doyle:
And Biggie, yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
Shout out, Biggie.
Glennon Doyle:
Tell us about how you and Jax met.
Fortune Feimster:
We met seven years ago at Chicago Pride.
Abby Wambach:
Oh, oh.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah. I never in a million years thought I would have any significant relationship that came out of Pride.
Fortune Feimster:
But it was weird. It was the day after marriage equality pass, which seemed so wild because I remember I was doing a Pride show and it passed that day and everybody that night, there was just this electricity of like, “Oh my God! We never thought we’d get here.”
Fortune Feimster:
And I remember going through all the ups and downs of Prop 8 in California and being so devastated and gathering in big groups to just have this solace with each other. And here it was like, “Oh my God, how historic.” And I had never thought about marriage, truth be told.
Fortune Feimster:
I didn’t know that I would be lucky enough to have that. I didn’t envision it for myself, probably because of growing up not having those relationships.
Fortune Feimster:
So I felt very hopeful. And I remember walking down the Minneapolis airport. And they have it all the time, but it’s a rainbow corridor of lights. And I remember walking down this being like, “Holy crap. We get to get married! That’s insane.”
Fortune Feimster:
Then that night I met Jax.
Amanda Doyle:
Whoa.
Fortune Feimster:
I walked up to this event. I was there for maybe 15 minutes. They had asked me to come host and I was watching the performers and she just walked up. She walked up with a friend and started chatting and I thought they were together. And we took a picture and I was like, “This girl’s really cute, but I guess they’re together. Oh, well.”
Fortune Feimster:
And she came back 10 minutes later saying her picture was bad. I was like, “Oh, yeah, sure, sure it is.” And I got this false sense of confidence, thinking that she was coming to hit on me. Which I never thought I was always that person that was like, “Oh, you like the person behind me, right?” So I just was like, “Oh, I think she’s trying to come back and talk to me?” So it made me be a little bit more, I don’t know like, “What’s up?”
Glennon Doyle:
Swagger?
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Amanda Doyle:
“What’s up girl?”
Abby Wambach:
“How you doin’?”
Fortune Feimster:
And we kept running each other little all night.
Glennon Doyle:
The little giddy up.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah, right. And we ran into each other all night and there were all these different distractions trying to keep us apart because it was Pride and crazy. But we just kept finding each other in this giant crowd and started getting to know each other. Hung out that whole weekend and then dated long distance for a year.
Fortune Feimster:
But I remember leaving Chicago that weekend being like, “There’s something different here. This doesn’t feel like some random person I met.” And she never felt like a stranger. I’d never had that with anyone.
Abby Wambach:
We get that, big time.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Abby Wambach:
We met in Chicago, also.
Fortune Feimster:
You did? I didn’t realize it was Chicago.
Abby Wambach:
We did. Yep.
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah. It was like Pride, but it was a librarian convention. Yeah. It was amazing.
Abby Wambach:
Same, same.
Glennon Doyle:
We loved it. We loved those librarians.
Glennon Doyle:
Do you have a moment where you knew right away that it wasn’t just a normal, casual experience? Do you remember any times where you were like, “Oh, this is my person. We’re going to be together. I’m going to propose”?
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah. I mean, pretty early on, even in that long distance situation. We went a couple months before we had that talk of, “What are we?” kind of thing.
Fortune Feimster:
But even early on and then I was like, “I feel like this is a significant person for me.” We just clicked.
Fortune Feimster:
A year into being together, we came to a impasse. She was a teacher. So for her to move, she had to do it in the summer or else it was going to be a whole other year. She didn’t want to disrupt kids’ lives by uprooting and leaving them midway through a school year. We both were so exhausted from traveling because I was touring. So we were touring and trying to see each other often. So we were both just like, “How are you going to do this?” It was a little less romantic than it should have been. It was like, “I’m tired. You’re tired.”
Amanda Doyle:
“Let’s be tired together forever.”
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah. So we decided, “Let’s do it.” And I’ll tell you, that was one of the…
Fortune Feimster:
Even though I knew this person is incredible, and I would be so lucky to be with this person forever, it was so scary. Because I had never been in this significant relationship before. She had to make the decision to uproot her entire life, leave her friends, a job she loved. And I kept thinking like, “Am I ruining this person’s life by having them come be a part of this circus that I’m in, that is comedy.” And there was so much fear for both of us, but we weren’t really talking about it. We just were like, “Let’s just do it.”
Fortune Feimster:
So we got her packed up and drove we drove cross-country. And I realized that we had both had such fear and not talked about it, but it came out in a very crazy way.
We stopped in Oklahoma City and we went to dinner and I ordered this giant fried chicken dinner that came with 10 sides. It was humongous. And she ordered meatball sliders. And I was like, “Oh, we’re just going to share everything?” And she’s like, “Sure.”
Fortune Feimster:
And our food comes and I’m literally eating a feast for eight people. And I go reach for one of her meatball sliders. And she’s like, “Oh, you have eight things.” And I was like, “I thought we were sharing” because I’m just so obsessed with food. And she’s like, “Yeah, but I just actually want this.” And I’m like, “What? You said we’re sharing.” And she was just like, “I can’t do this!” And I’ve got gravy coming down my face like, “What? What’d I do?”
Fortune Feimster:
And she left. We almost broke up over a meatball slider on the way for her to move to be with me. But we realized after that night, it was because we were both so terrified and just couldn’t say that to each other that we were fighting over a meatball slider.
Abby Wambach:
Isn’t that how it always-
Amanda Doyle:
It wasn’t about the meatball slider!
Glennon Doyle:
She’s like, “I want the meatball a slider.”
Amanda Doyle:
Yeah. She’s like, “I’ve given up my friends, my family, my job, my students. Just let me have the fucking slider.”
Fortune Feimster:
“Let me have my meatball sliders.” And I’m like, “But I want a meatball slider.” I was such an idiot.
Fortune Feimster:
We got to LA and I remember we went to bed that night, woke up and just all that pressure, all that fear just melted away. It just went away. We had to have that… and get it out. Then, as soon as she moved in, it felt like, “Oh, yeah. We’re supposed to be together.” We fit right away. We spent all of our time together and never got tired of each other and it’s still like that. So yeah, you just have to tell each other you’re scared, but it’s so hard to do that.
Glennon Doyle:
Yes. Yeah. Do you share food now?
Fortune Feimster:
I want to share everything.
Glennon Doyle:
Okay.
Fortune Feimster:
And she’s still like, “Yeah, you can have some of it.” But I’m still so obsessed with food. I’m like, “I want to try eight things on the menu.”
Glennon Doyle:
Right.
Fortune Feimster:
And she’s like, “Just order your one thing. You’re good. You don’t have to have all of it.”
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
So when you say share, you mean, “I want to also take yours?”
Fortune Feimster:
Yes.
Glennon Doyle:
Yes. Got it.
Abby Wambach:
Glennon also is prescribing in that.
Fortune Feimster:
Oh, are you?
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Amanda Doyle:
Yeah.
Abby Wambach:
I’m like, “I’ve ordered what I ordered, knowing exactly how much I want to put in my face.”
Glennon Doyle:
“Sharing is caring.”
Abby Wambach:
No.
Fortune Feimster:
“Sharing is caring,” I say that too. I’m like, “Don’t you love me?”
Glennon Doyle:
“Don’t you love me?”
Fortune Feimster:
“Don’t you want me to have some of that?” She’s like, “No.”
Glennon Doyle:
Okay. This is called We Can Do Hard Things. Tragically, we only have another minute. What’s hard for you right now?
Abby Wambach:
Yeah?
Fortune Feimster:
Well, I’m such a workhorse. I am just on that path of trying to do everything. I’m so lucky to be at a place in my career where people want to come to shows or that I’m getting opportunities to act or whatnot.
Fortune Feimster:
I would say juggling all of this is difficult. I’m trying to remember to find balance because I want to work and do this because I love it so much. But I want to make sure that my wife is okay, that our life is good, and that I’m not so consumed with “trying to make it” or be successful that I’m ignoring the big things in my life that really matter, like my family, my wife, and us being happy and balanced.
Glennon Doyle:
Thank you for that. That was beautiful. We don’t relate at all… but we do.
Abby Wambach:
We relate very much to that.
Glennon Doyle:
We relate big. We relate big. Fortune.
Fortune Feimster:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
Thank you for just making that decision to be you and be you out loud because it’s really helping the world.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Glennon Doyle:
It makes a huge difference.
Fortune Feimster:
Well, I appreciate that you guys. You do the same thing. Having your example of who you guys are and your love and who you are individually and who you are together, I think that means so much to people to see your example.
Glennon Doyle:
Thank you.
Fortune Feimster:
Ditto to you, my friends.
Abby Wambach:
We love you so much and we’re going to have to have you on next time, another time because-
Glennon Doyle:
With Jax!
Fortune Feimster:
Please.
Glennon Doyle:
Maybe Jax will come.
Abby Wambach:
Jax, maybe you can come for a double date, you and Jax. And I just need to know more about the butch woman-
Glennon Doyle:
Oh, the femme thing? That-
Abby Wambach:
… that lives inside of you.
Fortune Feimster:
Who, me?
Glennon Doyle:
The bit that has started 4 million conversations between the two of us. Yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
Well, y’all know I am a debutante, so I guess you just can’t get rid of some parts of yourself.
Glennon Doyle:
Such a lady. Such a lady.
Fortune Feimster:
Well, this is awesome.
Amanda Doyle:
Dainty lady!
Fortune Feimster:
Thank y’all having me.
Abby Wambach:
Thank you for coming.
Glennon Doyle:
Thanks, Fortune. Sissy, did you want to say something? You looked like you were about to say something?
Fortune Feimster:
Sissy?
Amanda Doyle:
Oh, I was just saying big shout out to Biggie. Biggie, Biggie, Biggie.
Glennon Doyle:
Biggie!
Abby Wambach:
He’s the best.
Amanda Doyle:
I mean, if you think you love Fortune, wait till you meet Biggie.
Glennon Doyle:
That’s right.
Fortune Feimster:
My dog is adorable. My dog is the best. We’re so obsessed with him and we wake up every day, happy because he’s looking at us with unconditional love and there’s no greater feeling than waking up to him and coming home to him.
Abby Wambach:
We went down a Pomeranian rabbit hole after your show.
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah.
Abby Wambach:
Because we also, too, are equally as obsessed with Biggie as you are.
Glennon Doyle:
Yeah. If Jax finds another one like that that’s a rescue, can you just have her send it to me?
Fortune Feimster:
We’re looking because Abby told me you wanted to find one.
Glennon Doyle:
Oh, good. Okay.
Abby Wambach:
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster:
So we’ll let you know of sure.
Glennon Doyle:
Thank you! Thank you. We love you, Fortune.
Abby Wambach:
Go watch Fortune’s shit.
Glennon Doyle:
Yes!
Abby Wambach:
Go to her shows.
Fortune Feimster:
Good Fortune!
Glennon Doyle:
Good Fortune!
Abby Wambach:
Good Fortune on Netflix.
Amanda Doyle:
Good Fortune.
Glennon Doyle:
Do not miss it, Good Fortune. Watch it with your family. We love, ya. Thanks, Fortune.
Fortune Feimster:
Thank you, guys.
Abby Wambach:
See y’all next time.